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22:52:17&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-12 16:12:56&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-12 15:39:12&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-22 08:39:48&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-22 08:39:48&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;}]\"><\/div>\n<p><font color=\"white\">.<\/font><br>\nSolan\u00adge es sol\u00adche Aus\u00adsa\u00adgen gibt habe ich wenig Hoff\u00adnung f\u00fcr die Menschheit:<\/p>\n<p>[<a href=\"http:\/\/schlafmuetze.twoday.net\/stories\/1022400461\/\" target=\"_blank\">Zitat<\/a>]<br>\n<em>\" .. Nun hat er auch die Schwie\u00adger\u00admut\u00adter angesteckt.*grummel*.<br>\nDas fehlt mir gera\u00adde noch. Ihr Doc hat sofort reagiert und ordent\u00adli\u00adche Medis  ver\u00adschrie\u00adben. In ihrem Alter ist die Grip\u00adpe wahr\u00adlich kein Spass. Und so duf\u00adtet es in unse\u00adrer Woh\u00adnung nach Erk\u00e4l\u00adtungs\u00adtee und Einreibemittel&nbsp;..&nbsp;\"<\/em><\/p>\n<ul style=\"list-style-image:url(http:\/\/www.vonsulecki.com\/H1N1_influenza_virus-mini.png)\">\n<li>Gegen Grip\u00adpe hilft kein Erk\u00e4ltungstee;<\/li>\n<li>Gegen Grip\u00adpe hilft kein Einreibemittel;<\/li>\n<li>Wenn eines von bei\u00adden <em>\"Medis\"<\/em> hel\u00adfen soll\u00adte ist das <strong>\"Wun\u00adder\u00adhei\u00adlung\"<\/strong> - oder es han\u00addel\u00adte sich um eine Fehl\u00addia\u00adgno\u00adse, es war also kei\u00adne Virus-Grip\u00adpe (Influ\u00aden\u00adza).<\/li>\n<li><em><span class=\"dquo\">\"<\/span>ordent\u00adli\u00adche Medis\"<\/em> ist kei\u00adne Arz\u00adnei\u00admit\u00adtel\u00adbe\u00adzeich\u00adnung - es gibt kei\u00adne <em>\"Medis\"<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/de.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Influenza#Therapie\" target=\"_blank\">gegen Grip\u00adpe\u00advi\u00adren<\/a> die <em>\"<strong>un<\/strong>ordent\u00adlich\"<\/em> w\u00e4ren - dann w\u00e4ren sie nicht ver\u00adord\u00adnungs\u00adf\u00e4\u00adhig - und nicht wirksam!<\/li>\n<li>Es gibt nur eine <a href=\"https:\/\/de.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Viren#Antivirale_Medikamente\" target=\"_blank\">\"sehr begrenz\u00adte M\u00f6g\u00adlich\u00adkeit\"<\/a> mit Arz\u00adnei\u00admit\u00adteln gegen Grip\u00adpe vorzugehen.<\/li>\n<li>Au\u00dfer\u00addem ist es Unfug <a href=\"http:\/\/schlafmuetze.twoday.net\/stories\/1022400461\/comments\/1022400938\" target=\"_blank\">fol\u00adgen\u00addes<\/a> zu glauben:<br>\n<em>\" .. Die Imp\u00adfung ist ja immer nur gegen einen bestimm\u00adten, und zwar den erwar\u00adtet schlimm\u00adsten, Erre\u00adger wirksam&nbsp;..&nbsp;\"<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vonsulecki.com\/Bilder_2015\/02_2015\/H1N1_influenza_virus.png\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vonsulecki.com\/Bilder_2015\/02_2015\/H1N1_influenza_virus.png\" alt=\"1\" align=\"left\" width=\"45%\"><\/a>Tat\u00ads\u00e4ch\u00adlich ist es nicht die <em>\"erwar\u00adtet schlimm\u00adste\"<\/em>, son\u00addern die <strong>erwar\u00adtet wahr\u00adschein\u00adlich\u00adste<\/strong> Virus\u00adform, gegen die der Impf\u00adstoff sich rich\u00adtet. Es gibt eine Vari\u00adanz in den H\u00fcll(en)proteinen der Viren, die (ver\u00adein\u00adfacht) mit den Buch\u00adsta\u00adben \"H\" und \"N\" bezeich\u00adnet wer\u00adden. H\u2082N\u2083 w\u00e4re eine sol\u00adche Vari\u00adan\u00adte, oder&nbsp;H\u2081N\u2081.<\/p>\n<p>Des\u00adwe\u00adgen ist es kei\u00adne Will\u00adk\u00fcr der Impf\u00adstoff\u00adher\u00adstel\u00adler, son\u00addern sie beob\u00adach\u00adten wie die\u00adse Pro\u00adte\u00adine ver\u00adteilt sind und wohin die <a href=\"https:\/\/de.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Influenzavirus#Variabilit.C3.A4t_und_Subtypen\" target=\"_blank\">(Anti-)Gen<em>\"drift\"<\/em><\/a>, also die Ten\u00addenz, geht. Dass das nicht immer gelingt liegt dar\u00adan, dass die Viren sich sehr rasch ver\u00ad\u00e4n\u00addern. Schnel\u00adler, als daf\u00fcr ein Impf\u00adstoff pro\u00addu\u00adziert wer\u00adden&nbsp;kann.<\/p>\n<p>Jeder Grip\u00adpe-Impf\u00adstoff hilft gegen Grip\u00adpe\u00advi\u00adren, auch wenn er dem H\u00fcllen\u00adtyp nicht voll\u00adst\u00e4n\u00addig 'ange\u00adpa\u00dft' ist, indem er die Hef\u00adtig\u00adkeit der Krank\u00adheit (Schwe\u00adre der Sym\u00adpto\u00adme) ein\u00add\u00e4mmt. Einen abso\u00adlu\u00adten Schutz im Sin\u00adne von v\u00f6l\u00adli\u00adger Sym\u00adptom\u00adfrei\u00adheit gibt es nicht.<\/p>\n<p>Abbil\u00addung Virus: <span style=\"font-size:77%\"><a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:2009_H1N1_influenza_virus_genetic-num-de.svg\" class=\"mw-mmv-license\">Gemein\u00adfrei<\/a>; <span class=\"mw-mmv-filename-prefix\">File:<\/span><span class=\"mw-mmv-filename\"> 2009&nbsp;<span class=\"caps\">H1N1<\/span> influ\u00aden\u00adza virus<\/span>; <a href=\"\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/User:Timk70\" class=\"mw-mmv-username\">Hoch\u00adge\u00adla\u00adden von Timk70<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>. Solan\u00adge es sol\u00adche Aus\u00adsa\u00adgen gibt habe ich wenig Hoff\u00adnung f\u00fcr die Mensch\u00adheit: [Zitat] \" .. Nun hat er auch die Schwie\u00adger\u00admut\u00adter angesteckt.*grummel*. Das fehlt mir gera\u00adde noch. Ihr Doc hat sofort reagiert und ordent\u00adli\u00adche Medis ver\u00adschrie\u00adben. In ihrem Alter ist die Grip\u00adpe wahr\u00adlich kein Spass. 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