{"id":83066,"date":"2012-03-12T11:55:00","date_gmt":"2012-03-12T10:55:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/?p=83066"},"modified":"2012-03-12T11:55:00","modified_gmt":"2012-03-12T10:55:00","slug":"der-lacher-demail-75230192","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/der-lacher-demail-75230192\/","title":{"rendered":"Der 'Lacher' DE-Mail ...."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"__iawmlf-post-loop-links\" style=\"display:none;\" data-iawmlf-post-links=\"[{&quot;id&quot;:7257,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.internet-law.de\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/der-unsinn-der-de-mail.html&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20250418110845\\\/http:\\\/\\\/www.internet-law.de\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/der-unsinn-der-de-mail.html&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-05 03:17:28&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-14 16:47:02&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-22 10:45:51&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-22 10:45:51&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:7258,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.internet-law.de\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/der-unsinn-der-de-mail.html#comment-13060&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20250418110845\\\/http:\\\/\\\/www.internet-law.de\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/der-unsinn-der-de-mail.html&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-05 03:17:29&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-14 16:47:02&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-22 10:45:51&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-22 10:45:51&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:7259,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.internet-law.de\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/der-unsinn-der-de-mail.html#comment-13061&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20250418110845\\\/http:\\\/\\\/www.internet-law.de\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/der-unsinn-der-de-mail.html&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-05 03:17:31&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-14 16:47:04&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-17 19:55:10&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-22 10:45:50&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-22 10:45:50&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:7260,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/wk-blog.wolfgang-ksoll.de&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20251012000323\\\/http:\\\/\\\/wk-blog.wolfgang-ksoll.de\\\/&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-05 03:17:33&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-17 19:55:02&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:503}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-17 19:55:02&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:503},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;}]\"><\/div>\n<p>Man\u00adche Aus\u00adsa\u00adgen sind so pr\u00e4\u00adzi\u00adse auf den Punkt, da\u00df jeder Ver\u00adsuch es bes\u00adser sagen zu wol\u00adlen schei\u00adtern mu\u00df - daher hier zwei Zita\u00adte aus einer Dis\u00adkus\u00adsi\u00adon zu einem <a href=\"http:\/\/www.internet-law.de\/2012\/03\/der-unsinn-der-de-mail.html\" target=\"_blank\">Gast\u00adbei\u00adtrag im Blog von <span class=\"caps\">RA<\/span> Dr. Stad\u00adler<\/a> ....<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.internet-law.de\/2012\/03\/der-unsinn-der-de-mail.html#comment-13060\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"caps\">ZITAT<\/span> 1:<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Gera\u00adde Juri\u00adsten soll\u00adten doch wis\u00adsen, dass Geset\u00adze nur so viel Wert sind wie die Sch\u00e4r\u00adfe der Stra\u00adfen, die Sach\u00adkennt\u00adnis der Rich\u00adter und Anw\u00e4l\u00adte, die Aus\u00adge\u00adstal\u00adtung der Kon\u00adtrol\u00adlen und die Sach-, Ver\u00adstan\u00addes- und Macht\u00adaus\u00adstat\u00adtung der Kon\u00adtrol\u00adleu\u00adre. <span style=\"color:#000000;background-color:lime;\">Wenn argu\u00admen\u00adtiert wird, dass doch im Gesetz gesagt wird, dass mit De-Mail nie\u00admand B\u00f6ses tun darf \u2026 dann fin\u00adde ich die Aus\u00adsa\u00adge zum Lachen, und den Aus\u00adsa\u00adger&nbsp;naiv.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Nicht das erste Sicher\u00adheits\u00adpla\u00adce\u00adbo, das uns ange\u00adbo\u00adten wird. Rich\u00adtig gef\u00e4hr\u00adlich wird die Sache erst, wenn sie ver\u00adpflich\u00adtend wird. Vor\u00adher ist die Sache so gef\u00e4hr\u00adlich, wie die Leu\u00adte \u2026 naiv genug sind, sie zu glau\u00adben. Das ist eine nicht zu unter\u00adsch\u00e4t\u00adzen\u00adde Gefahr, aber in vie\u00adlen Zusam\u00admen\u00adh\u00e4n\u00adgen ver\u00adbrei\u00adtet. Man kann Infor\u00adma\u00adti\u00adon nur anbie\u00adten, wie das die Tech\u00adni\u00adker in die\u00adser Run\u00adde hier tun. Wenn die Infor\u00adma\u00adti\u00adon ange\u00adnom\u00admen wird, hilft sie manchmal.<\/p>\n<p><cite>Kom\u00admen\u00adtar by mupan\u200a\u2014\u200a12.03, 2012 @ <a href=\"#comment-13060\">01:21<\/a><\/cite> <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.internet-law.de\/2012\/03\/der-unsinn-der-de-mail.html#comment-13061\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"caps\">ZITAT<\/span> 2:<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Die Zertifizierung\/Akkreditierung von DE-Mail durch das <span class=\"caps\">BSI<\/span> ist eo ipso unsi\u00adche\u00adrer als E-Mail mit inter\u00adna\u00adtio\u00adna\u00adlen Standard-Produkten.<\/p>\n<p>1.) Dem Nut\u00adzer ist kei\u00adne unab\u00adh\u00e4n\u00adgi\u00adge Source-Code-Veri\u00adfi\u00adka\u00adti\u00adon m\u00f6g\u00adlich wie zum Bei\u00adspiel bei Thun\u00adder\u00adbird. Wir haben gera\u00adde bei 0zapftis, dem BKA-Tro\u00adja\u00adner, gese\u00adhen, wie not\u00adwen\u00addig das&nbsp;ist.<\/p>\n<p>2.) Das <span class=\"caps\">BSI<\/span> ist eine wei\u00adsungs\u00adge\u00adbun\u00adde\u00adne Beh\u00f6r\u00adde des <span class=\"caps\">BMI<\/span>. Dem <span class=\"caps\">BMI<\/span> (Bun\u00addes\u00adm\u00adi\u00adnit\u00adse\u00adri\u00adum des Inne\u00adren) unter\u00adsteht genau\u00adso das <span class=\"caps\">BKA<\/span> (Bun\u00addes\u00adkri\u00admi\u00adnal\u00adamt). Hier ist ein system\u00adim\u00adma\u00adnen\u00adter Unab\u00adh\u00e4n\u00adgig\u00adkeits\u00adman\u00adgel und Inter\u00ades\u00adsens\u00adkon\u00adflikt beim sel\u00adben Dienst\u00adher\u00adren, der eine unab\u00adh\u00e4n\u00adgi\u00adge Pr\u00fc\u00adfung unm\u00f6g\u00adlich macht, zumal das <span class=\"caps\">BSI<\/span> auch 1990 als Abtei\u00adlung 6 des Bun\u00addes\u00adnach\u00adrich\u00adten\u00addien\u00adstes ver\u00adselb\u00adst\u00e4n\u00addigt wurde.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000;background-color:lime;\">Wem Sicher\u00adheit liebt ist, der soll\u00adte DE-Mail also auf jeden Fall mei\u00adden, bis die Anbie\u00adter ihren Source-Code offen\u00adge\u00adlegt haben und die durch unab\u00adh\u00e4n\u00adgi\u00adge Drit\u00adte gepr\u00fcft wur\u00adde.<\/span> Zum Bei\u00adspiel den <span class=\"caps\">CCC<\/span>, der bei 0zaptis das erreich\u00adte, was Beh\u00f6r\u00adden nicht m\u00f6g\u00adlich war, und ekla\u00adtan\u00adte Daten\u00adschutz\u00adm\u00e4n\u00adgel wie die \u00dcber\u00adtra\u00adgung von per\u00adso\u00adnen\u00adbe\u00adzo\u00adge\u00adnen Daten in die <span class=\"caps\">USA<\/span> zur Ver\u00adschleie\u00adrung des Lau\u00adschers aufdeckte.<\/p>\n<p><cite>Kom\u00admen\u00adtar by <a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/wk-blog.wolfgang-ksoll.de\/\">Wolf\u00adgang Ksoll<\/a>\u200a\u2014\u200a12.03, 2012 @ <a href=\"#comment-13061\">10:24<\/a><\/cite> <\/p>\n<p><font size=\"1\">[Farb\u00adli\u00adche <span style=\"color:#000000;background-color:lime;\">Her\u00advor\u00adhe\u00adbung<\/span> von&nbsp;mir]<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Man\u00adche Aus\u00adsa\u00adgen sind so pr\u00e4\u00adzi\u00adse auf den Punkt, da\u00df jeder Ver\u00adsuch es bes\u00adser sagen zu wol\u00adlen schei\u00adtern mu\u00df - daher hier zwei Zita\u00adte aus einer Dis\u00adkus\u00adsi\u00adon zu einem Gast\u00adbei\u00adtrag im Blog von <span class=\"caps\">RA<\/span> Dr. Stad\u00adler .... <span class=\"caps\">ZITAT<\/span> 1: Gera\u00adde Juri\u00adsten soll\u00adten doch wis\u00adsen, dass Geset\u00adze nur so viel Wert sind wie die Sch\u00e4r\u00adfe der Strafen,&nbsp;[\u2026]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":561,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[51],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-83066","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gelesen"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83066","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/561"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=83066"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83066\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=83066"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=83066"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.re-actio.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=83066"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}